[Report] Thendil - Water griefing + Abuse thru staff members

[Adware]

Alright, this is gonna be a long report topic with many screenshots and logs, so prepare.

For context, I’ve built a fully privately funded highway from near Rosewood thru Dubai and to my (still unapproved) city of Cale Island.

I noticed a huge part of my highway was griefed when checking on it after a while. These highways I’ve made out of concrete powder, matching the Dutch ‘autoweg’ design from real life.

I still owned these regions when I checked, ci1 and ci1_1 to ci_17 (ci1_13 doesn’t exist, slight miscount), and you can see the griefed road in the background here

I confronted night since he was added to these regions. Apparently I had forgotten that he was building a railway, hence why he was added. Thendil was also building in the area, and night confirmed on Discord that it was Thendil who poured water on it:

I confronted Thendil about this, and he replied after presumably talking to night:

This is all unfortunate, and the report would’ve concluded here, but I went online to check something about the highways and to get the full list of the regions that it was about, and stumbled upon my highway being further tampered with (screenshot is from later, but it’s the same):

(information from night) Apparently, Thendil had convinced Vik to add him to the highway regions, and took it upon himself to remove me as owner from these regions without compensation for the land value. Because I caught this while night was online (the one who regioned the highway a few years back), they were returned to me. I admit I might’ve been a bit on-edge and panick-y, but I was about to be screwed out of ~190kF of land (using 5F/block):

[17:02:12] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » Ehh
[17:02:32] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » Why do I no longer own my regions?
[17:02:42] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] KingAndrew95 » probably got evicted
[17:02:46] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » no
[17:02:50] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » nightemperor?
[17:02:59] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] KingAndrew95 » where are the plots Adware
[17:03:22] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] KingAndrew95 » are they in a gov city or private city?
[17:03:27] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » they’re roads
[17:03:29] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » No they were a private highway
[17:03:37] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] KingAndrew95 » oh no idea
[17:04:03] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » Yo nightemperor, I’m fine with you completely conquering my highways, but I want my money then
[17:04:14] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » I paid for these completely out of pocket
[17:04:17] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » I did not do such a thing
[17:04:28] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » How come they’re no longer mine then?
[17:05:01] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » You were evicted for inactivity according to Thendil, whether that is rightfully done so is now being investigated.
[17:05:02] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » if u can provide logs they were bought by you and not regioned for you as part of highways dept it would help
[17:05:27] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » They were my regions! I have screenshots of this
[17:05:42] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » Thendil, Doesn’t that go the other way around? I regioned those highways lol and he paid for those
[17:05:52] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » Mhm
[17:05:53] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » which was quite a while back
[17:05:55] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » check now
[17:06:00] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » ./rg info ci1
[17:06:05] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » It says gov now?
[17:06:16] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » They were mine, and you indeed regioned them
[17:06:26] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » There is no eviction found anywhere
[17:06:40] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » Not purchased, nothing
[17:06:43] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » eviction notices are for cities
[17:06:57] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » not purchased?
[17:07:00] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » Which staff member changed it to gov then?
[17:07:33] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » pretty sure vik did, again this is a misunderstanding.
[17:07:54] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » yeah, you’re gonna have to deliver proof that it was a gov highway and deliver proof that he was evictable. I’m removing thends from the rgs until this is sorted out.
[17:08:01] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » Can you do it for all the regions again Thendil?
[17:08:04] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » nightemperor*
[17:08:05] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » sorry
[17:08:19] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » yeah
[17:08:37] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » ci1_1 thru to ci1_17
[17:08:45] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » 13 might be missing idk
[17:11:50] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » so the longest stretch of road has an evictable period of 132 days. last time adware registered as active would have been 19 february
[17:12:28] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » False anyways, and they weren’t evicted in that time even if that were true, you just now did it
[17:12:49] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » they were evicted as you have been online less than an hour each 30 days
[17:13:11] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » You have not evicted me, and I have screenshots to prove I still owned them an hour ago
[17:13:26] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » you were online less than an hour over 30 days an hour ago
[17:13:39] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » it’s called inactivity avoidance
[17:14:17] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » This is not a discussion anyways Thendil, you griefed private land
[17:14:41] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » And now you’re gonna add abuse of power to this?
[17:14:43] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » i patched some concrete powder earlier as you highlighted but i updated the road design within the 200 blocks of dubai as per discussions with them
[17:15:03] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » Not discussed with me, being the land owner and all
[17:15:12] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » okay but thendil, even with 30 days of inactivity, just one part of that road is 33k in value, which means 9 months of activity needed, not sure how you figured out you could evict
[17:15:24] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » but instead of me patching, you could just get an admin to world edit it back
[17:15:25] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » ^^
[17:15:26] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » inactivity*
[17:15:41] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » is that evicted?
[17:15:50] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » which part?
[17:16:14] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » ci1_9 for example
[17:16:14] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » Regions which appear to form a single thing, even being smaller regions, have to be counted together anyways
[17:16:33] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » absolute nonsense
[17:16:36] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » This would bring it to a year of inactivity, considering how much land it is
[17:16:37] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » not in the rules at all
[17:16:38] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » No, rules
[17:16:41] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » yes it is
[17:16:47] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » each region is calculated separately for eviction purposes
[17:16:51] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » no
[17:16:58] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » pretty sure its counted together
[17:17:08] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » if they’ve changed that it’s in the last few minutes
[17:17:14] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » no it’s not.
[17:17:28] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » section?
[17:17:30] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » I mean it hasn’t been changed in the last few minutes.
[17:18:01] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » " Multiple directly adjacent regions owned by the same player are treated as one region."
[17:18:10] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » It says it in the rules
[17:18:17] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » also you really need to liaise with city owners over changing road layouts to basalt and then something else as dubai got a connection with basalt now
[17:18:56] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » Maybe that’s true, but also this shit could have been communicated rather than sneakily evicting.
[17:19:19] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » They can discuss that with me, and the door is always open. Aya knew that, and they are always allowed to alter the regions to facilitate a city expansion
[17:20:04] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » I’m fine having government added as owner, so long as we know this is still a private highway
[17:20:12] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » i doubt half of these regions existed until a few weeks ago
[17:20:29] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » You’re spewing nonsense now
[17:20:31] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » I literally rged this highway a while ago
[17:21:01] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » yeah i think you regioned “some” of it a few weeks ago but added urself and adware as owners and ignored the cities nearby
[17:21:12] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » well added urself as member
[17:21:16] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » no lol
[17:21:51] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » I added myself about a year ago when I started the construction of the underground railway.
[17:21:57] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » This highway has been here for like two years
[17:22:05] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » ^
[17:22:13] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » that highway has been a mish mash of half demolished and basalt and now concrete
[17:22:28] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » u took out the basalt and left it empty for months
[17:22:28] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » No matter what you think of it, this is not the way to go
[17:22:44] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » And I could do that since it was my private region
[17:22:47] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » sorry adware but you need to liaise with cities before making whacky designs and then changing them
[17:23:03] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » and some of those regions are evictable anyway
[17:23:05] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » I have proof that this highway was arranged with Aya
[17:23:20] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » Not the design, but I was always open to discussion
[17:23:42] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » How hard would it have been to shoot a message: hey i don’t like this design, mind if we change it?
[17:23:49] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » ^^
[17:24:03] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » satan you really don’t get it. when something is evictable that have no future rights
[17:24:34] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » I mean it wasn’t evictable to begin with, Considering the amount of land the highway occupies
[17:25:14] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » also ci1 is the longer region u were referring to nightemperor and that hasn’t been evicted
[17:25:19] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » This is major department member abuse, to just hijack a private region
[17:25:42] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » it’s an evicted region
[17:25:48] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » It’s not
[17:25:56] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » and i’m not in a dept for highways anymore and neither ar eyou
[17:25:57] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » Definitely not
[17:26:20] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » you carry on wangling your little conspiracy to retain control of the highways
[17:26:20] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » Nobody has told me I’m not in the dept anymore. I’m still the ranks on Discord too
[17:26:35] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » it’s not a life post
[17:26:41] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » ?
[17:26:44] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » what
[17:26:52] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » Why is it always that you choose the douch option rather than be a sensible and communicate Thendil? this could have been an easy fix,.
[17:26:55] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » you were considered inactive and you lose a post when ur inactive
[17:27:05] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » satan ur the one disrespecting vc owners
[17:27:13] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » nice deflecting
[17:27:15] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » ur so corrupt
[17:27:18] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » Just because you consider me inactive doesn’t make it so I am
[17:27:19] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » sure buddy
[17:27:27] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » so many people complaining atm
[17:27:36] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » sure
[17:27:39] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » sure
[17:27:40] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » so many people complaining atm
[17:27:43] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » Because you tried to hijack my regions buddy
[17:27:49] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » evicted within the rules
[17:28:03] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » Not evicted, definitely not in any rules
[17:28:06] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » you play lose with the rules, i actually follow them. who’s corrupt now/
[17:28:22] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » that adjacent region shit was never intended for long ass highways. that was for people’s bases and you know it
[17:28:41] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » Should I still make a report for griefing? I feel like abuse is more in order now
[17:28:52] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » that’s your assumption biased by your own agenda.
[17:29:21] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » Even if it was, these things were discussed with the city mayor, Aya, at the time of building
[17:29:32] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » as i said if u don’t like the patchign, world edit it back to powder.
[17:29:36] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » you could have avoided all this drama by just communicating.
[17:29:38] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » ask for that
[17:29:40] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » So you can grasp at a rule that doesn’t even apply here, doesn’t help
[17:29:53] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » satan you could have avoided the drama by telling him to stop inactivity avoiding
[17:30:02] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » wtf
[17:30:06] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » lmao what
[17:30:22] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » do you even read your sentences before you type them out?
[17:30:26] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » xD
[17:30:49] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Admin Satan » either way imma make some dinner, you cool down, peace out!
[17:30:54] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] [-] nightemperor
[17:30:54] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » he logs in less than 1 hour each 30 days. he buy regions next to a city. misappropriates rules intended for bases.
[17:31:18] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » and gets an admin to region extra stuff for free
[17:31:20] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » I bought these lands to protect against exactly what just happened
[17:31:21] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » Acc
[17:31:31] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » I never expected abuse in these calculations
[17:31:32] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » so u say but u don’t offer proof
[17:31:47] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » this is why people prefer gov highways
[17:32:16] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » I told you I was open to discussion, but hijacking is not the way
[17:32:41] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » u were not open to a discussion
[17:32:56] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » u were open to a chat rant
[17:33:13] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » huh
[17:33:22] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » About the design of the highway, yes I was open
[17:33:26] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » But nobody ever messaged me
[17:33:41] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » you never said that
[17:33:43] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » Not you, not Aya, not the Dubai owners, nobody
[17:33:50] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » you just started with firing shit at me
[17:33:55] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » Eh no
[17:33:58] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » in dms
[17:34:02] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » ?
[17:34:05] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » Proof then?
[17:34:20] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » I don’t fire for no reason
[17:34:26] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » you said i destroyed stuff? i did no such thing
[17:34:43] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » You poured water on my concrete powder highway
[17:34:45] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » Yes you did
[17:34:54] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » i patched some stuff earlier
[17:35:07] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » after ur dmsw
[17:35:15] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » to fix for u
[17:35:23] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » Yeah you griefed further, I noticed
[17:35:32] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » And then tried to hijack my private regions
[17:35:43] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » then i spoke with dubai. then i noticed ur were inactive anyway and we got it updated to be owned by gov
[17:35:47] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » i didn’t hijack
[17:35:50] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » Only because Night knows whats up I managed to stop the abuse of power
[17:35:56] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] ~Thents [V] » i’m not in power
[17:36:24] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » You abused your position as a dept member to get your way
[17:36:31] [Render thread/INFO]: [System] [CHAT] Adware » Via a different staff member

There have been no discussions concerning the highway with me. This highway was constructed thru Dubai after talks with the mayor, Aya. I can provide evidence of this if needed. The design was not a ‘must’, and was always open to change obviously. Just message me.

Thendil tried to illegally evict me from my own regions, trying to justify it by using rules that don’t exist (yet) and falsely claiming I was inactive.

[UltraPro]

the road will have to be looked at with core protect, if you see a tech or admin on let us know and we can have a look

[Thendil]

Firstly, not sure why this is a public report and it’s not a major issue and can be rectified. The calculation at the time showed that you were inactive since 19th February. If this is not the case even by a slight margin of 10 seconds of activity, it does appear you have had long periods of inactivity. A staff member also looked at the region and thought the same as well and you were removed. I believe this has been resolved.

If this was a mistake I can only apologise and I’m sure that can be rectified.

This road was earmarked for updating when I was highway tech in infra dept as you were previously inactive. I hadn’t gotten around to sorting this road out and did not believe it was regioned yet. You may have not had the role removed in the dept still but I was the only active technician and a staff member and had considered you no longer part of the dept after 3 months of inactivity. I was effectively leading much of the work on highways at the time I left. A number of things had changed in the dept as well around how highways work.

I was also originally informed that this road was part of a gov project as it wasn’t usual for a large scale private road network to be made by an individual and as a dept member it was assumed you were the lead working on this. A number of dept staff had been kept on gov regions as owners and I was working through who owned what. If that is incorrect then we can sort the regions out.

There are some design issues with the road, matching those cities you have connected to and you have changed it 3 times by the looks of it. I earmarked it for completion back when I was highways tech as it wasn’t complete. I wasn’t aware it was regioned at the time I saw it and it appears the gray concrete powder has been added recently either by world edit or by someone else. If that is the case, I’m sure the issues can be resolved for you. All we wanted to do is make sure there was a matching style for the roads and the cities involved.

I hope this gets rectified for you and I would have contacted you initially but unfortunately due to the isactive plugin misbehaving, I believed you were inactive and this has caused some issues. Just to let you know, isactive only works if you’re active for more than an hour, it’s not accumulative like some people assume. Willing to help rectify this issue for your however I can.

[Adware]

I’m currently in the infrastructure department, and there is no record of this road being ‘marked for updating’. There is no mention of it at all actually. You also don’t provide proof.

Again, you also show no proof this highway was a government project, and there are no conversations about it in the infrastructure department either. You also show the basalt picture here, which is indeed the part that currently still exists, which is part of the city region of Dubai and which I’m not able to update to any design. That is for the city owners to do, and they can.
Your city of Keystone is not connected to my highway, and hence why you didn’t have a say in this. I only built an intersection near Dubai for you to connect to if you wanted to in the future, which you have. I had no interest in building that part personally.

Inactivity here is a moot point, even if it were true, since I showed evidence that the regions were private when I recorded the grief had occured, and not evicted nor government added. This all happened after the grief had been brought to your attention, and you went out of your way to convince Vik to add you as owner to remove me from my own regions.

You then went further griefing, and edited the private land you had just illegally evicted by changing the road design.

I have not referenced the rules about adjacent regions, that was you by saying I can’t just ‘claim land 200 blocks from a city’. But this was agreed with the mayor at the time and again, they were always allowed to alter it to facilitate an expansion:

This was then followed by a conversation on Discord:

The rule we were talking about was about inactivity (again a moot point, yet here we are), whereby adjacent regions owned by the same player are seen as one region, and have to be counted together to calculate inactivity. This would easily bring the inactivity to a year, which it hasn’t been.

The latest version of the highway was made by me, not WorldEdit. Then you poured water on it. I have proven that these highways were privately owned, which is proof enough that I paid for these out of my own pocket. Night has regioned most of these regions, and still remembers it. We even had discussions before on potentially connecting Almloft to this highway.

The ‘orders’ from Baz in the guidelines were guidelines for government highways, or highways that were funded by the government. Since I wasn’t able to get funding or be recognized as an organisation, I felt free enough to use whatever design I felt would fit. I’m always open to discussions with Dubai mayors, but they hadn’t contacted me about this so the highway remained as it was.
By saying this all you are in essence saying that you knew this highway has been there for over a year, possibly two. You’ve had plenty of time to contact me about it even in the time your brain considered me active, yet I got no messages. You instead resorted to trying to illegally evict me by influencing a staff member.

[Thendil]

I can see that this road is unapproved by the dept and still has a break from the main road. I advise as a former member of the infra dept to get this rectified.

I have explained above your role should have been removed after 3 months.

I don’t believe there was any communication regarding a job for this, or requests for an organisation and this was the only thing you were working on as you have been inactive in the dept since the end of 2021 or by the time I joined. This may have been the only thing you have been working on since I joined. Funding could have been sorted for you as a system was set up. I would have expected that you made the effort to liaise regarding this with all the cities at this point.

Keystone had already developed a road connecting to Dubai, which you connected to and the road style changed without letting us know. We then had to update our road several times, which has caused some problems for us. It currently doesn’t match Dubai or the other roads. Basalt as well was an eyesore and some of this hadn’t been fixed on your roads. Dubai owners do want a matching style and they have changed owners since, so I suggest going forward you try to consult with the city owners as well as owners of developed infra (regioned or not) that is connected and nearby cities that may be restricted by this large scale network.

The adjacent regions issue wasn’t brought up by me. This need to be clarified by staff as the precedent was that this was for normal regions. If applied to large scale networks, this could have an effect on any plot connected on it that you own as well. This could even be either ends of the map for some regions. This isn’t even an approved network connected to the gov network as mentioned.

[Adware]

Saying that you were working in the area before me is a complete fabrication. It was regioned before I put down the highway, and changed it later.

There was no consultation between YOU and me because this part of the highway did not concern you at all. It was only connected to Dubai and Cale Island. The intersection north of Dubai was made to give you the opportunity to connect your own road to Keystone to it, which you did a month or so after I built the original road.

I am still part of the Infrastructure team, and have not been inactive. Just because you keep saying this doesn’t make it true.

I could not get funding indeed. This was because this road concerned 2 cities when I needed 4 as per the guidelines. I also needed 3 people in the organisation, which I failed to find.

This road couldn’t have been built the way that it did without approval from the Dubai mayor. I built the part that sits within Dubai myself. This means there was contact between me and the mayor at the time to set this up.

This road did not concern you in the slightest, yet you griefed and tried to evict me from my own private regions without compensation, purely because you didn’t like the road design.

[Thendil]

The intersection was first developed by me before you regioned over it and changed the block design. I’m sorry to hear you didn’t get compensation when evicted. I believe you are still on the regions now. Just to let you know, those that had Aya on previously, should now have the Dubai owners on.

[Adware]

You show no proof of inactivity.
I have also shown proof that this road was fully owned by myself and hence paid for by me. This is also the reason that all of the region names start with the letters C and I, meaning Cale Island.

Nobody has told me I wasn’t a member anymore, and I still have the roles, which means I still am.

Even if I did want my own design, I did nothing that I wasn’t allowed to do, and I made my agreements with the Dubai mayor at the time fairly.

Also, even if you were under this impression that it was a government project, while the highway isn’t mentioned anywhere in the Infra dept. Discord channels, YOU weren’t a member of this department anymore when you decided to evict me, grief my highway and change the design.

[Thendil]

For the part of the road that wasn’t evicted where some water spillages have taken place, I have sent you money as compensation for this in lieu of staff not worldediting this or you not requesting support with this.

Calculation:
0.703125f x 1015 blocks = 776.953125 (based on aramega prices at 45f / stack) - rounded up to 2k for hassle

A further 10k for any efforts to restore this highway, totalling 12k.

Proof of compensation

Edit:
Additionally all griefing/patching/updating that has taken place on evicted regions has been looked at by myself and original designs have been restored. Furthermore, my city is looking matching the road designs to ensure consistency in the area.

[4K606]

Ignoring all above, id just like to say, department roles on discord are never removed unless your banned like me . Last i was on the discord ncr still had a department role even tho he resigned 3 years ago.

[Baz]

I have not read that much but I’ve seen my name come up a couple of times.
For clarification, the regulations regarding private highways have to do with highway funding. If private organizations wanted funding from the government they needed to follow government regulations for private infrastructure organizations. of which no private organization to my knowledge currently qualifies for government funding or has a contract with the infrastructure department. Along with this, only SUD and NTD are recignized by the government. This could have changed since I’ve left but to my understanding, these regulations have since been abandoned.
There are no hellominers rules that state no independent organization cannot build infrastructure.

In addition, There were no plans to expand the highway system southwest toward Dubai during my time in the infrastructure department. The latest projects I was involved in were restoration projects in and around Helloclan. The projects were headed by nonother than Adware. As for when I left the department in November, I have no idea what projects were started.

However, my confusion about who is doing what is starting to get to me. Thendil is claiming this region for the government infrastructure department, but on Discord he is not a department staff. And when he was department staff, he was the lead railway technician. meaning he was assigned to no highway projects during his time as lead railway tech. He has since then resigned. If he is not a staff member he has no access to the infra department discord channels, how would he have gotten this project approved by staff for funding? And how would staff have granted him access to the region without first checking if he was even a part of the department?

On top of that, Adware is still employed by the infra department according to Discord. Meaning he has access to all planned projects and should consult with the rest of the department on whether or not this highway was planned (which he has done).

[Thendil]

Sorry Baz but things have moved in a different direction since you left, partly due to the changing culture.

I believe the issues with this have mostly been resolved now.

When I left I was pretty much the only technician, although some roles hadn’t been removed, those players were inactive. There does need to be clarification in the rules on this as staff members are removed after 3 months of inactivity. This should be the same for dept staff as other depts have done this in the past and it shouldn’t be a life position. Other players should be given opportunities to give direction for the dept as well and those who go inactive should advise of this and can’t expect to still be in the dept. They can always ask to come back.

In terms of “employed” by the dept, noone has received pay for a long time now and noone else was working on stuff other than approving airports, subways, what I was working on and this from what it had looked like.

[Adware]

I’ll say this again: I have not been inactive, nor was I ever removed or informed that I was no longer a department member.

This was not a government highway, and not believed to be anything other than a private road. I don’t know who did these ‘inspections’ you mention either. Again you provide no proof. Night still remembers regioning this highway about 2 years ago, too.
The part towards Keystone that you built yourself still remains unregioned, so your argument here is invalid.
You’re free to believe whatever you want about who built the highway.

We are waiting for new government rules on private highways - and again city mayors from connected cities can always just send me a message, it’s not difficult.

I have not dictated anything to the infra department. You can mention big organisations here, but this is completely irrelevant to this report.
This road I made OUTSIDE my work as an infra staff member, and hence this road doesn’t get a mention in the infra staff chat or any projects.

I do agree with you that the funding requirements and the process to get funding are very confusing and difficult.

Staff doesn’t need to decide anything either - this is clearly one unit and not seperate regions.

[Thendil]

Yes the new handbook is coming out soon and I have read all of it and it should clarify things a lot more for you all. It’s time to move on. We’re never gonna get agreement on this.

[Adware]

You say all these things and write a long story on here, yet you haven’t provided any proof.
I suggest you find this before you answer again, as you’re making yourself look worse every time. I’ve said what I had to say.
Even now that the grief has been repaired, which is good, this report still stands, as you weren’t a department member at the time you tried to illegally evict me and so this shouldn’t have happened.

[Thendil]

If this continues, in that case I’d like to complain that part of my infra has been regioned over and griefed as well (specifically what is now ci1_10, ci1_11, ci_12, if that’s now complainable).

[Thendil]

If you have nothing new to add, please stop and let staff make their decision. I won’t be responding to this anymore but all I can say is, if you do somehow stay in the dept despite not doing anything for years and being inactive for most of this time, liaise with all cities nearby when creating a large road system. Also, ensure it gets to be connected to the network rather than unapproved. You need to communicate as well. End of.

[Adware]

It’s funny how you keep trying to spew misinformation instead of providing proof.
I changed the style once, not 3. Everything had been regioned before I started construction.
This highway is not yours, and you did nothing when it came to construction. You only built your own bit towards Keystone, which is still unregioned mind you.
Guidelines at the time didn’t make it possible to be approved, and everything was discussed with the city mayor at the time.